Edwin Morris Lord

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  • Name Edwin Morris Lord  [1
    Registration Between 1 Jan 1890 and 31 Mar 1890  Bury, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Birth Registration 
    • Volume 8c, Page 622
    Birth Registration for Edwin Morris LORD (98151)
    Birth Registration for Edwin Morris LORD (98151)
    Born 15 Feb 1890  Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 3
    Christened 30 Mar 1890  St. Thomas, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Gender Male 
    Census 5 Apr 1891  Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    England 
    1891: England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    1891 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    RG12 Piece 3144 Folio 15 Page 24  
    1891 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    1891 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    RG12 Piece 3144 Folio 15 Page 24  
    Residence 5 Apr 1891  Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    120 & 122 Water Street 
    Census 30 Mar 1901  Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    England 
    1901: England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    1901 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    RG13 Piece 3647 Folio 143 Page 42  
    1901 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    1901 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    RG13 Piece 3647 Folio 143 Page 42  
    Residence 30 Mar 1901  Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    156 Copes Road 
    Census 2 Apr 1911  Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    England 
    1911: England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    1911 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    RG14PN23537 RG78PN1372 RD462 SD6 ED9 SN225  
    1911 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    1911 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire
    RG14PN23537 RG78PN1372 RD462 SD6 ED9 SN225  
    Occupation 2 Apr 1911  Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Clogger 
    Residence 2 Apr 1911  Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    116 Water Street 
    Occupation 20 Nov 1920  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Boot Maker 
    Residence 20 Nov 1920  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    64 Church Street 
    Registration Between 1 Oct 1945 and 31 Dec 1945  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Death Registration 
    • Volume 8d, Page 578
    Death Registration for Edwin M. LORD (98151)
    Death Registration for Edwin M. LORD (98151)
    Died 29 Dec 1945  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    • Hope Hospital, 91 Eccles Old Road
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    Person ID I98151  The Williams Family Tree
    Last Modified 2 May 2018 

    Father William Lord
              b. 3 May 1853, Little Lever, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 11 Feb 1923, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years) 
    Mother Ellen Morris
              b. 2 Feb 1852, Little Lever, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 29 Apr 1919, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 67 years) 
    Registration Between 1 Oct 1874 and 31 Dec 1874  Bolton, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Marriage Registration 
    • Volume 8c, Page 319
    Marriage Registration for Ellen MORRIS (98136)
    Marriage Registration for Ellen MORRIS (98136)
    Marriage Registration for William LORD (98135)
    Marriage Registration for William LORD (98135)
    Married 3 Oct 1874  St. Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [10, 11
    Family ID F28533  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Gladys Amy Neild
              b. 15 Nov 1893, Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 18 Apr 1984, Wigan, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 90 years) 
    Registration Between 1 Oct 1920 and 31 Dec 1920  Salford, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Marriage Registration 
    • Volume 8d, Page 89
    Marriage Registration for Edwin M. LORD (98151)
    Marriage Registration for Edwin M. LORD (98151)
    Marriage Registration for Gladys A. NEILD (98152)
    Marriage Registration for Gladys A. NEILD (98152)
    Married 20 Nov 1920  St. Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Marriage for Edwin Morris LORD and Gladys Amy NEILD (28536)
    Marriage for Edwin Morris LORD and Gladys Amy NEILD (28536)
    Children 
     1. Morris Edwin Lord
              b. 20 Mar 1925, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 7 Feb 2000, Wigan, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years)
    Last Modified 3 Nov 2016 
    Family ID F28536  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsRegistration - Birth Registration - Between 1 Jan 1890 and 31 Mar 1890 - Bury, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 15 Feb 1890 - Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - England - 5 Apr 1891 - Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 120 & 122 Water Street - 5 Apr 1891 - Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - England - 30 Mar 1901 - Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 156 Copes Road - 30 Mar 1901 - Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - England - 2 Apr 1911 - Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Clogger - 2 Apr 1911 - Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 116 Water Street - 2 Apr 1911 - Radcliffe, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsRegistration - Marriage Registration - Between 1 Oct 1920 and 31 Dec 1920 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Boot Maker - 20 Nov 1920 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 64 Church Street - 20 Nov 1920 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsRegistration - Death Registration - Between 1 Oct 1945 and 31 Dec 1945 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 29 Dec 1945 - Salford, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • From the 1891 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire (RG12 Piece 3144 Folio 15 Page 24) Edwin, 1, born Radcliffe, Lancashire, was with his parents William, 37, Clogger from Little Lever, Lancashire, and Ellen, 37, from Bolton, Lancashire, at 120 & 122 Water Street, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England. With him were his siblings James T., 15, Clogger's Assistant born Little Lever, Lancashire, Emma, 11, Scholar born Little Lever, Lancashire, Florence E., 9, Scholar born Radcliffe, Lancashire, William, 8, Scholar born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Clara W., 6, Scholar born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Joseph, 4, born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Alice S. S., 2, born Radcliffe, Lancashire, and Albert E., 1, born Radcliffe, Lancashire.

      From the 1901 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire (RG13 Piece 3647 Folio 143 Page 42) Edwin M., 11, born Radcliffe, Lancashire, was with his parents William, 48, Inn Keeper from Little Lever, Lancashire, and Ellen, 48, from Bolton, Lancashire, at 156 Stopes Road, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England. With him were his siblings Emma, 21 born Little Lever, Lancashire, Florence E., 19, born Radcliffe, Lancashire, William, 18, Clogger born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Clara W., 16, born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Joseph, 14, Apprentice Terra Cotta Works born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Alice S., 12, born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Albert E., 11, born Radcliffe, Lancashire, and May D., 9, born Radcliffe, Lancashire.

      From the 1911 England Census for Radcliffe, Lancashire (RG14PN23537 RG78PN1372 RD462 SD6 ED9 SN225) Edwin E., 21, Clogger born Radcliffe, Lancashire, was with his parents William, 57, Clogger from Little Lever, Lancashire, and Ellen, 57, from Bolton, Lancashire, at 116 Water Street, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England. With him were his siblings Emma, 31, Weaver (Cotton Trade) born Little Lever, Lancashire, Florence Emma, 29, Weaver (Cotton Trade) born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Joseph, 24, Clogger born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Alice S. S., 22, Assistant at Home born Radcliffe, Lancashire, Albert E., 21, General Labourer (Builder) born Radcliffe, Lancashire, and May D., 19, Cord Weaver (Cotton Tape Manufacturer) born Radcliffe, Lancashire. Visiting the family was Fritz S. Reid, 22, Post Man (Government) from Southport, Lancashire.

  • Sources 
    1. [S8939] Ancestry Family Trees, (http://ancestry.co.uk), accessed 22 Oct 2016), Edwin Morris LORD (98150) (Reliability: 3), 22 Oct 2016.
      1 Wall/Whittingham Walker Tree (katjiaw)
      http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/6356030/family?fpid=-1275157535

    2. [S8515] England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, ((http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl)), accessed 23 Oct 2016), Birth Registration for Edwin Morris LORD (98151); Mar 1890; Bury, Lancashire; Volume 8c, Page 622. (Reliability: 3), 23 Oct 2016.

    3. [S8568] Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915, ((http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2960&enc=1)), accessed 23 Oct 2016), Baptism for Edwin Morris LORD (98151); 30 Mar 1850: St. Thomas, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 23 Oct 2016.
      Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915

      Information for Edwin Morris LORD

      Birth Date: 15 Feb 1890
      Age: 0
      Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1890
      Parish: Radcliffe, St Thomas
      Parish as it Appears: St Thomas, Radcliffe
      Father's name: William Lord
      Mother's name: Ellen Lord
      Reference Number: L155/1/1/5
      Item Number: 3
      Archive Roll: 607
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=WGC5306&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&db=ManchesterBaptismsCRO&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&MS_AdvCB=1&gsln=lord&gsln_x=1&msfng=william&msfng_x=1&msmng=ellen&msmng_x=1&MSAV=2&uidh=e72&pcat=34&fh=28&h=4414912&recoff=11%2034%2035%2046%2047&ml_rpos=29


    4. [S9390] 1891 England Census for Lancashire, England. Lancashire., ( Ancestry . http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=6598 : n.d.), Radcliffe, folio 15, page 24; digital images, \i Ancestry\i0  (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=6598 : accessed 23 Oct 2016); citing PRO RG 12/3144 (Reliability: 3), 23 Oct 2016.
      1891 England Census data extracted from Ancestry Records 23/10/2016


      Information for William LORD

      Age: 37
      Estimated birth year: abt 1854
      Relation: Head
      Spouse's Name: Ellen Lord
      Gender: Male
      Where born: Little Lever, Lancashire, England
      Civil Parish: Radcliffe
      Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
      Town: Radcliffe
      County/Island: Lancashire
      Country: England
      Registration district: Bury
      Sub registration district: Radcliffe
      ED, institution, or vessel: 6
      Piece: 3144
      Folio: 15
      Page Number: 24
      Household Members:
      William LORD: Age 37 (1854)
      Ellen LORD: Age 37 (1854)
      James T LORD: Age 15 (1876)
      Emma LORD: Age 11 (1880)
      Florence E LORD: Age 9 (1882)
      William LORD: Age 8 (1883)
      Clara W LORD: Age 6 (1885)
      Joseph LORD: Age 4 (1887)
      Alice LORD: Age 2 (1889)
      Edwin S S LORD: Age 1 (1890)
      Albert E LORD: Age 1 (1890)
      RG12 Piece 3144 Folio 15 Page 24

    5. [S9213] 1901 England Census for Lancashire, England. Lancashire., ( Ancestry . ancestry.co.uk : n.d.), Radcliffe, folio 143, page 42; digital images, \i Ancestry\i0  (ancestry.co.uk : accessed 23 Oct 2016); citing PRO RG 13/3647 (Reliability: 3), 23 Oct 2016.
      1901 England Census data extracted from Ancestry Records 23/10/2016


      Information for William LORD

      Age: 48
      Estimated birth year: abt 1853
      Relation to Head: Head
      Gender: Male
      Spouse: Ellen Lord
      Birth Place: Little Lever, Lancashire, England
      Civil Parish: Radcliffe
      Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
      Town: Radcliffe
      County/Island: Lancashire
      Country: England
      Registration district: Bury
      Sub-registration district: Radcliffe
      ED, institution, or vessel: 06
      Piece: 3647
      Folio: 143
      Page Number: 42
      Household schedule number: 249
      Household Members:
      William LORD: Age 48 (1853)
      Ellen LORD: Age 48 (1853)
      Emma LORD: Age 21 (1880)
      Florence E LORD: Age 19 (1882)
      William LORD: Age 18 (1883)
      Clara W LORD: Age 16 (1885)
      Joseph LORD: Age 14 (1887)
      Alice S LORD: Age 12 (1889)
      Edwin M LORD: Age 11 (1890)
      Albert E LORD: Age 11 (1890)
      May D LORD: Age 9 (1892)
      RG13 Piece 3647 Folio 143 Page 42

    6. [S9316] 1911 England Census for Lancashire, England. Lancashire., ( Ancestry . http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2352 : n.d.), 116 Water Street, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England; (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2352 : accessed 23 Oct 2016); citing RG 78 PN 1372, RG 14 PN 23537, registration district (RD) 462, sub district (SD) 6, enumeration district (ED) 9, schedule number (SN) 225 (Reliability: 3), 23 Oct 2016.
      1911 England Census data extracted from Ancestry Records 23/10/2016


      Information for William LORD

      Age in 1911: 57
      Estimated birth year: abt 1854
      Relation to Head: Head
      Gender: Male
      Birth Place: Little Lever, Lancashire, England
      Civil Parish: Radcliffe
      County/Island: Lancashire
      Country: England
      Street address: 116 Water Street Radcliffe Lanc
      Marital Status: Married
      Registration district: Bury
      Registration District Number: 462
      Sub-registration district: Radcliffe
      ED, institution, or vessel: 9
      Piece: 23537
      Household Members:
      William LORD: Age 57 (1854)
      Ellen LORD: Age 57 (1854)
      Emma LORD: Age 31 (1880)
      Florence Emma LORD: Age 29 (1882)
      Joseph LORD: Age 24 (1887)
      Alice S S LORD: Age 22 (1889)
      Albert E LORD: Age 21 (1890)
      Edwin E LORD: Age 21 (1890)
      May D LORD: Age 19 (1892)
      Fritz S REID: Age 22 (1889)
      RG14PN23537 RG78PN1372 RD462 SD6 ED9 SN225

    7. [S9167] Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930, accessed 23 Oct 2016), Marriage for Edwin Morris LORD and Gladys Amy NEILD (28536); 20 Nov 1920: St. Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 23 Oct 2016.
      Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930

      Information for Edwin Morris LORD

      Birth Year: abt 1892
      Age: 28
      Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1920
      Parish: Pendleton, St Thomas
      Parish as it Appears: Pendleton, St Thomas
      Father: William Lord
      Spouse: Gladys Amy Neild
      Spouse Father: William Derbyshire Neild
      Reference Number: GB127.L186/1/3/9
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=ManchesterMarriagesCRO&h=1115817&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WGC5301&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&rhSource=8753

    8. [S8529] England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007, ((http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7579&enc=1)), accessed 23 Oct 2016), Death Registration for Edwin M. LORD (98151); Age at death 55 (1890); Dec 1945; Salford, Lancashire; Volume 8d, Page 578. (Reliability: 3), 23 Oct 2016.

    9. [S8519] England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, ((http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl)), accessed 21 Oct 2016), Marriage Registration for William LORD and Ellen MORRIS (28533); Dec 1874; Bolton, Lancashire; Volume 8c, Page 319. (Reliability: 3), 21 Oct 2016.

    10. [S9905] Jackie Wood, Wood, Jackie, 21 Oct 2016>, "Re: Gregson and Blackburn(e)," (Reliability: 3), 21 Oct 2016.
      Morning Phil,

      I am so glad that my "interference" paid off! Great news.

      If I could just give you a brief outline of my Morris brick wall problem, maybe it might ring a bell with you .... here's hoping anyway!
      My great grandparents, Ellen Morris & William Lord married at St Peter's (not the Halliwell one) in Bolton in 1874. Her father, James Morris, is said to be a quarryman. Ellen's birth cert has him as an engineer. Her mother's maiden name was Ann Platt, born Upton, Cheshire (there are 3 Uptons in Cheshire...!). No marriage has been found for James & Ann so far so their parents are unknown. James, Ann & Ellen Morris are nowhere to be found on any census until 1881 when William & Ellen are married & her mother Ann is living with them & is a widow. James Morris is a total enigma. Back to the Morris/Lord marriage - Ellen's residence is said to be 31 Chorley New Road, Bolton - in 1841 that's where William Morris & his sister Mary Ann are living, but in 1871 it's a Dutton family (George Dutton is a chemist/druggist/stamp distributor) who are living there with no sign of a Morris. The witnesses to Ellen & William's marriage are both Duttons but they are not the residents of no.31. William & Ellen had 9 children & not one of them seems to have known anything about Ellen's background. My grandfather was given Morris as a middle name & my Dad was christened Morris & as I have spent eight years trying to resolve this issue, I decided to have a DNA test, just in case it provided the missing link. Guess what? - the only result that I matched with in this country (the rest are in the USA & all very distant cousins) suggested that this tree owner & myself were approximately 4th cousins meaning we share (approx) ggg grandparents. She has Morrises in that position on her tree but has really only worked on her own direct ancestor, Ralph Morris. He has a brother, James, of about the right age for my purposes but my own research has married him off (3 times) so he doesn't appear to be mine. My great grandmother, Ellen, was a secret Catholic (my great grandfather left her for a time when he found out many years into their marriage) but whether that is significant or not is unknown. The gist of this really is that I'm trying to determine whether the Ralph Morris family line is in any way connected to the Chorley New Road Morris clan.

      Anyway Phil, if any of the above triggers off any memory with you please let me know ......

      Kind regards

      Jackie

    11. [S9616] Lancashire OPC, ((http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/index.html)), accessed 21 Oct 2016), Marriage for William LORD and Ellen MORRIS (28533); 3 Oct 1874: St. Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 21 Oct 2016.
      Extracted from the Lancashire OPC website 21/10/2016


      Marriage: 3 Oct 1874 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
      William Lord - 21, Clogger, Bachelor, 4 Church Court
      Ellen Morris - 22, Spinster, 31 Chorley New Road
      Groom's Father: James Lord, Clogger
      Bride's Father: James Morris, Quarryman
      Witness: John Dutton; Deborah Button
      Married by Banns by: John Stott Lecturer & Curate
      Register: Marriages 1873 - 1875, Page 147, Entry 294
      Source: Film of the register at Manchester Library
      http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/cgi-bin/search.cgi?First=william&Surname=lord&FatherFirst=&FatherSurname=&event=mar&location=%2C%2C&MotherFirst=&MotherSurname=&year=1874&period=0&SpouseFirst=&SpouseSurname=&results=full&perpage=50%2C1&WitnessFirst=&WitnessSurname=&distance=&units=miles&parish=&type=Parish&community=


    12. [S8559] England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005, ((http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?htx=List&dbid=8753&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0)), accessed 23 Oct 2016), Marriage Registration for Edwin M. LORD and Gladys A. NEILD (28536); Oct-Nov-Dec 1920; Salford, Lancashire; Volume 8d, Page 89. (Reliability: 3), 23 Oct 2016.