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- From the 1841 Wales Census for Lanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire (HO107 Piece 1437 Book 8 Folio 11 Page 3) John, 9, was with his parents Richard, 30, Agricultural Labourer, and Jane, 30, at Ty Coch, Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire, Wales. With him were his siblings Jane, 11, Thomas, 5, and Richard, 2. Also present was David Hughes, 3. Everyone was recorded as having been born in Montgomeryshire.
From the 1851 Wales Census for Trefolwern, Montgomeryshire (HO107 Piece 2495 Folio 488 Page 5) John, 18, Hand Loom Weaver, was with his parents Richard, 44, Hand Loom Weaver, and Jane, 42, Weaver's Wife, in Trefolwern, Montgomeryshire, Wales, With him were his siblings Thomas, 15, Hand Loom Weaver, Richard, 11, Edward, 7, Mary, 4, and Jane, 1. Lodging with the family was Ann Jones, 11. Everyone was recorded as having been born in Lanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire.
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