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- [S9667] Jan Hazell, Hazell, Jan, 10 Jul 2015>, "William & co," (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Hi Phil
I had a feeling we had communicated before, but I couldn't remember how or when!
In fact, when I looked more closely, I was able to find the baptism of my G Grandmother, Catherine Williams. This was useful, as her birth registration had not been entered in Bala, as had the rest of her siblings, all verified by the Superintendent Registrar at the time, years ago, so I was never entirely sure of her birth year.
I have recently been tracing the family of Catherine's elder sister, Ann (Williams) Hughes born 1838, & discovered that, after she had been left a young widow with 7 children in the 1870s, she had emigrated with all of them to the USA, and had settled in Utica, NY. This research has been quite involved, and I have been in touch with some of the descendants via the Internet, still ongoing. The U.S is useful, as we can find quite a bit up to their 1940 census.
In addition, the youngest Williams brother, Rees Edward Williams, had several sons who emigrated to New Zealand, and I am now in touch with a 3rd cousin near Auckland who has done a vast amount more about her Williams family there. If you want to expand your Williams dynasty, I'll be happy to add to your info!!!
Regarding Jane Augusta's mother, Jane Roberts, that opens another huge area of your dynasty! She married a Kay, and moved to an area near Bolton, Lancashire, where they all settled. I have had contact with one of Jane's GG Granddaughters, and she sent me a copy of a handwritten family tree, done many years ago, and I have been able to edit and correct some parts of it for accuracy
It's always tempting to keep going with new info, once the odd brick wall comes down. I had almost given up on this side of the family, but then more info came to light... I will probably never stop, given the amount of info I keep finding....
Where are you located? In the UK, as I am? I did the Ancestry DNA test a couple of months ago, and Ancestry has already linked me with 80 pages of entries x 50 per page for potential cousins, mostly distant = 4,000 in all, but I know it must be true as 2 are definitely known to me from previous and proven contact over the past few years. I doubt that I will be able to find a link with most, as they have few or very small family trees available.
All for now
Jan
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- [S9313] Lancashire BMD Indexes, ((http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Birth for Arthur KAY (74674); 1850: Turton, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Birth data extracted from the UK BMD website 10/7/2015
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi
Lancashire Births Marriages and Deaths Indexes
Lancashire Birth indexes for the year: 1850
Surname: KAY
Forename(s): Arthur
Sub-District: Turton
Registers At: Bolton
Mother's Maiden Name: ENTWISLE
- [S8515] England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, ((http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Birth Registration for Arthur KAY (74674); Dec 1850, Bolton, Lancashire, Volume 21, Page 211. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
- [S9418] Lancashire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911, ((http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2575)), accessed 11 Jul 2015), Baptism for Arthur KAY (74674); 29 Jun 1851: Turton, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 11 Jul 2015.
Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
Information for Arthur KAY
Baptism Date: 29 Jun 1851
Parish: Turton, Lancashire, England
Father: Arthur Kay
Mother: Jane Kay
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number: Drm/2/40
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=LancashireParishBirths&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&MS_AdvCB=1&gsfn_x=NP_NN&gsln=kay&gsln_x=1&msbpn__ftp_x=1&msypn__ftp_x=1&msfng=arthur&msfng_x=1&msfns_x=1&msmng=jane&msmng_x=1&msmns_x=1&MSAV=2&uidh=e72&pcat=34&fh=7&h=13504417&recoff=8+25+26+37+38&ml_rpos=8
- [S8511] England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), entry for Arthur KAY, person ID 75674; 29 Jun 1851: Turton, Lancaster, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Gender:«tab»Male
Christening Date:«tab»29 Jun 1851
Christening Place:«tab»Turton, Lancaster, England
Birth Date:«tab»
Birthplace:«tab»
Death Date:«tab»
Name Note:«tab»
Race:«tab»
Father's Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Father's Birthplace:«tab»
Father's Age:«tab»
Mother's Name:«tab»Jane
Mother's Birthplace:«tab»
Mother's Age:«tab»
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:«tab»C02102-0
System Origin:«tab»England-EASy
GS Film number:«tab»1545461
Reference ID:«tab»item 3 p 12
Citing this Record:
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFZX-BHJ : accessed 10 July 2015), Arthur Kay, 29 Jun 1851; citing Lancashire, England, reference item 3 p 12; FHL microfilm 1,545,461.
- [S8511] England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 11 Jul 2015), entry for Arthur KAY, person ID 74674; 29 Jun 1851: Turton, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 11 Jul 2015.
Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Gender:«tab»Male
Christening Date:«tab»29 Jun 1851
Christening Place:«tab»Turton, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:«tab»
Birthplace:«tab»
Death Date:«tab»
Name Note:«tab»
Race:«tab»
Father's Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Father's Birthplace:«tab»
Father's Age:«tab»
Mother's Name:«tab»Jane
Mother's Birthplace:«tab»
Mother's Age:«tab»
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:«tab»C02076-7
System Origin:«tab»England-EASy
GS Film number:«tab»1538366
Reference ID:«tab»
Citing this Record:
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQMV-3W5 : accessed 11 July 2015), Arthur Kay, 29 Jun 1851; citing Turton, Lancashire, England, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,538,366.
- [S9389] 1881 England Census for Lancashire, England. Lancashire., (\i Ancestry\i0 . http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7572 : n.d.), Turton, folio 44, page 44; digital images, \i Ancestry\i0 (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7572 : accessed 10 Jul 2015); citing PRO RG 11/3829 (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
1881 England Census data extracted from Ancestry Records 10/7/2015
RG11 Piece 3829 Folio 44 Page 44
Information for Arthur KAY
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Jane Kay
Gender: Male
Where born: Turton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Turton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Overhouses
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Platelayer
Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Turton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 3829
Folio: 44
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Arthur KAY: Age 30 (1851)
Jane KAY: Age 31 (1850)
James KAY: Age 4 (1877)
Mary KAY: Age 3 (1878)
John KAY: Age 1 (1880)
Thomas KAY: Age (1881)
RG11 Piece 3829 Folio 44 Page 44
- [S9167] Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930, accessed 10 Jul 2015), Marriage for Arthur KAY and Jane ENTWISLE (22031); 30 May 1836: Bolton le Moors, St Peter, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Information for Arthur KAY
Marriage Date: 30 May 1836
Parish: Bolton le Moors, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Bolton-le-Moors
Spouse's Name: Jane Entwisle
Reference Number: GB127.L243/1/4/23
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=ManchesterMarriagesCRO&h=1409337&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=8978
- [S8561] England Marriages, 1538–1973, ((https://familysearch.org)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Marriage for Arthur KAY and Jane ENTWISLE (22031); 30 May 1836: St. Peter's, Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Birth Date:«tab»
Birthplace:«tab»
Age:«tab»
Spouse's Name:«tab»Jane Entwisle
Spouse's Birth Date:«tab»
Spouse's Birthplace:«tab»
Spouse's Age:«tab»
Event Date:«tab»30 May 1836
Event Place:«tab»St. Peter's, Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:«tab»
Mother's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Father's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Mother's Name:«tab»
Race:«tab»
Marital Status:«tab»
Previous Wife's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Race:«tab»
Spouse's Marital Status:«tab»
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:«tab»
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:«tab»I02052-2
System Origin:«tab»England-EASy
GS Film number:«tab»559182
Reference ID:«tab»yr 1834-1837 p 203
Citing this Record:
"England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJZQ-YLX : accessed 10 July 2015), Arthur Kay and Jane Entwisle, 30 May 1836; citing St. Peter'S, Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England, reference yr 1834-1837 p 203; FHL microfilm 559,182.
- [S8561] England Marriages, 1538–1973, ((https://familysearch.org)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Marriage for Arthur KAY and Jane ENTWISLE (22031); 30 May 1836: Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Birth Date:«tab»
Birthplace:«tab»
Age:«tab»
Spouse's Name:«tab»Jane Entwisle
Spouse's Birth Date:«tab»
Spouse's Birthplace:«tab»
Spouse's Age:«tab»
Event Date:«tab»30 May 1836
Event Place:«tab»Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:«tab»
Mother's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Father's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Mother's Name:«tab»
Race:«tab»
Marital Status:«tab»Single
Previous Wife's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Race:«tab»
Spouse's Marital Status:«tab»Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:«tab»
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:«tab»M00693-7
System Origin:«tab»England-EASy
GS Film number:«tab»1966479
Reference ID:«tab»it4, p203, no609
Citing this Record:
"England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNLL-29V : accessed 10 July 2015), Arthur Kay and Jane Entwisle, 30 May 1836; citing Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England, reference it4, p203, no609; FHL microfilm 1,966,479.
- [S8561] England Marriages, 1538–1973, ((https://familysearch.org)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Marriage for Arthur KAY and Jane ENTWISLE (22031); 30 May 1836: Saint Peter, Bolton Le Moors, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Birth Date:«tab»
Birthplace:«tab»
Age:«tab»
Spouse's Name:«tab»Jane Entwisle
Spouse's Birth Date:«tab»
Spouse's Birthplace:«tab»
Spouse's Age:«tab»
Event Date:«tab»30 May 1836
Event Place:«tab»Saint Peter,Bolton Le Moors,Lancashire,England
Father's Name:«tab»
Mother's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Father's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Mother's Name:«tab»
Race:«tab»
Marital Status:«tab»
Previous Wife's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Race:«tab»
Spouse's Marital Status:«tab»
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:«tab»
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:«tab»M00715-3
System Origin:«tab»England-ODM
GS Film number:«tab»559181, 559182
Reference ID:«tab»
Citing this Record:
"England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK69-1VM : accessed 10 July 2015), Arthur Kay and Jane Entwisle, 30 May 1836; citing Saint Peter,Bolton Le Moors,Lancashire,England, reference ; FHL microfilm 559,181, 559,182.
- [S8561] England Marriages, 1538–1973, ((https://familysearch.org)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Marriage for Arthur KAY and Jane ENTWISLE (22031); 30 May 1836: Bolton Le Moors, Lancaster, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Birth Date:«tab»
Birthplace:«tab»
Age:«tab»
Spouse's Name:«tab»Jane Entwisle
Spouse's Birth Date:«tab»
Spouse's Birthplace:«tab»
Spouse's Age:«tab»
Event Date:«tab»30 May 1836
Event Place:«tab»Bolton Le Moors, Lancaster, England
Father's Name:«tab»
Mother's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Father's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Mother's Name:«tab»
Race:«tab»
Marital Status:«tab»Single
Previous Wife's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Race:«tab»
Spouse's Marital Status:«tab»Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:«tab»
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:«tab»M00751-9
System Origin:«tab»England-EASy
GS Film number:«tab»1545452
Reference ID:«tab»P203 #609
Citing this Record:
"England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFZN-XQM : accessed 10 July 2015), Arthur Kay and Jane Entwisle, 30 May 1836; citing Bolton Le Moors, Lancaster, England, reference P203 #609; FHL microfilm 1,545,452.
- [S8519] England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, ((http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Marriage Registration for Arthur KAY (74674) and Jane ROBERTS (92026); Dec 1875, Bolton, Lancashire, Volume 8c, Page 371. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
- [S9313] Lancashire BMD Indexes, ((http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Marriage for Arthur KAY and Jane ROBERTS (22030); 1875: Bolton, St Peter, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Marriage data extracted from the UK BMD website 10/7/2015
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi
Lancashire Births Marriages and Deaths Indexes
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the year: 1875
Surname: KAY
Forename(s): Arthur
Surname: ROBERTS
Forename(s): Jane
Church / Register Office: Bolton, St Peter
Registers At: Bolton
- [S8561] England Marriages, 1538–1973, ((https://familysearch.org)), accessed 10 Jul 2015), Marriage for Arthur KAY and Jane ROBERTS (22030); 6 Oct 1875: St. Peter, Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England. (Reliability: 3), 10 Jul 2015.
Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Birth Date:«tab»1851
Birthplace:«tab»
Age:«tab»24
Spouse's Name:«tab»Jane Roberts
Spouse's Birth Date:«tab»1839
Spouse's Birthplace:«tab»
Spouse's Age:«tab»36
Event Date:«tab»06 Oct 1875
Event Place:«tab»St. Peter, Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:«tab»Arthur Kay
Mother's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Father's Name:«tab»Evan Roberts
Spouse's Mother's Name:«tab»
Race:«tab»
Marital Status:«tab»
Previous Wife's Name:«tab»
Spouse's Race:«tab»
Spouse's Marital Status:«tab»
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:«tab»
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:«tab»I05175-7
System Origin:«tab»England-EASy
GS Film number:«tab»1966660
Reference ID:«tab»Item 3 p233
Citing this Record:
"England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNLB-HW9 : accessed 10 July 2015), Arthur Kay and Jane Roberts, 06 Oct 1875; citing St. Peter, Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England, reference Item 3 p233; FHL microfilm 1,966,660.
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